This is much easier to do with a single hand rod. Spey lines are usually lines that have a fairly long head length - something in excess of 50 ft, and usually with an integrated running line. This large range is due to the spey casting style used. You can make any spey casts with a single-hand rod. I still need some help. Every shake of the fish’s head is felt in the cork, not absorbed through the length of the rod. We tested the 200- through 275-grain Skagit Trout Max lines with Redington's 3-weight Hydrogen Trout Spey ($350) and found a sweet spot with the 250-grain head. "When it comes to finding the right Spey rod... the best length really depends on how far you need to cast. Confused yet? Now, it is rare to see a single-hand rod on the river. It feels so light and SHORT. Have you ever picked up a shorter rod to fish after spending a few hours with a spey rod. Yep. The InTouch Single Handed Spey line has been designed to be a fantastic tool for anglers that prefer/need to perform roll and single-handed Spey casts. Both employ lightweight, medium-length, two-hand fly rods and shooting head fly lines. Thanks for the advice. Switch rods are usually between 10 and 12 feet long. I have made a promise to myself to fish more with my 9 footer. In a nutshell, a modern switch rod is designed to be cast as both a single-handed and two-handed rod. Dave Ragland . I have a two handed, Winston 5wt, 11'6", 4 piece, Boron III. They are all essentially the same creature just living by various names. RIO, with its new InTouch Single Handed spey line recently joined the party with one of the first integrated lines designed specifically for spey casting with single hand rods. If you plan on fishing large Steelhead rivers where 90' to 120' casts are the norm, a 14' to 15' rod is the weapon of choice. I plan to start with good old fashioned single-handed fly-casting and then move on towards spey-casting and double-handed rods in later posts. RIO Single hand Spey has a very long front taper, a short, fat, belly, and a short back taper. Also at least in the fishing I do lots of times i need the fly to be fishing and swinging slowly and properly immediately when it hit the water, no time for mending. You check the model numbers on the butt of the rod to make sure you didn’t string up an extra short 7 ½ or 8 foot rod by mistake. John, Thanks! New to Spey/skagit. However almost all of the casting pointers discussed will be utilized with both styles of fly-casting so it’s a good idea to stay up to date! fishing for trout mostly on the Lower Sacramento River in Anderson, CA. The Single Handed Spey line from Rio represents a 2 line size bump in terms of grain weight. The cork handles of switch rods are also similarly scaled, with a front grip of about 11" and a rear grip usually about 4" or so. Straight lines keeps you InTouch with the bait! Confused yet? I learned by doing (which is not always the best way) with the long rod and I still carry my signature bad habits with me to the rivers. Spey Rods and Two Handed Fly RodsSpey rods are also called "two-handed" rods and overlap with another name called "switch rods" as well. Rio In Touch Single Hand Spey line. When I started fly fishing in 1967, two-handed rods were just not used. The Single Handed Spey line has been designed to be a fantastic tool for anglers that prefer/need to perform roll and single-handed Spey casts. The versi-tips are classified as a two-handed product. Fishing the two-hand rod has improved my single-hand casting and I find I can use a some of spey casts on the short rod; such as the switch and single-spey casts. 8 footers are short by Montana trout rod standards, and they aren’t the best for casting these Scout lines. http://amzn.to/2AY3U7dhttp://amzn.to/2kAgZx08'6" #5 single hand rod, rod length mono leader, little wooly bugger. It cannot be beat. SBT reminds me of a Skagit line – a blunt instrument that works really well for chucking a lot of weight. Site by 21 Designs. I had the chance to pick up a brand new #5 Rio In Touch Single Hand Spey Line. casting beyond your ability to control the line is common. For switch rods, lengths of less than 11' are ideal. It is a cross between a single-handed fly rod and a two-handed Spey rod. I have a two handed, Winston 5wt, 11'6", 4 piece, Boron III. These rods are designed to allow anglers to spey cast with lightweight two-handed rods for trout. A #8 two-handed rod will take between 450 and 600 grains to load for spey casting. Why would you choose one over the other and why would you spey cast instead of single hand cast? And in doing so, perfect my bad habits, naturally, getting them so ingrained in my motor skills that they are natural, now. I’d actually describe it as a really, really , aggressive Triangle Taper. The world of trout spey (or whatever moniker is most popular at any given time) is constantly evolving. Like SBT, Single Hand Spey unsurprisingly is excellent at both roll casting and single hand Spey casting. You can cast them overhead using one hand or you can use the bottom handle with your other hand to do different Spey casts (think fancy roll casts). Most rods that are considered "trout spey" rods are in the 2-5 weight range and are capable of throwing streamers up to size #4 depending on the particular rod and type of shooting head. It is just so efficient. Spey Pages Since 2000 A forum community dedicated to Spey casting, fishing, flies, and enthusiasts. Whether you fish it single hand or with two it has its advantages and opens up areas that were unfishable with traditional casting. On small waters the single handed rod rules but every- where else the double hander will give you the edge every time. The Single Handed Spey performs great, even on the shortest of fly rods and really bombs out long casts with pie plate accuracy. I wish I could have the casting and fish-playing fun of the shorter rod and the line handling qualities of the longer rod. I laced it up to a 9′ for #5 single hand Cabelas fly rod to give it a test drive using a rod length mono running line and a small wooly bugger. Thanks for the advice. A switch rod is a style of fly rod. Spey refers to a style of casting, and this can be performed with any fly rod, single or two hand. Great info on the New School Spey set ups! Two parallel systems. Some of it goes back to my beginnings with fly fishing. Mar 17, 2020 #31 serious blast from the past. Single hand rod thread... Thread starter Peter Pancho; Start date Jul 26, 2003; 1; 2; 3; Next. Advantages of spey casting and why you should learn to cast a two-handed rod and how to apply these casts to a single hand fly rod. Pros: Get better casting performance out of any weight rod due to ability to appropriately match grain weight of tip to grain window of rod, a great tip option for lighter weight spey and switch rods, looped and labeled. To further complicate the matter, anglers in the US and Canada started using a radically different line configuration on their spey rods. Those of you who haven’t watched a lot of Monty Python or Premier League soccer may have a bit of trouble with Andrew’s accent, but luckily he mimes the proper motions several times. Both methods insist that the cast is thrown with emphasis on the under-hand (if you are Scandinavian), or bottom-hand (if you are North American). Another Spey vs. It’s a powerful cast that works when you are casting from river right, if you’re a right-hand caster. What you describe doing – single hand spey, spey, overhead – is exactly what the Ambush was designed for and it will turnover heavy, long nymph rigs. This extra length gives an angler the advantage of being able to present and control the fly at longer ranges and greater depths than with shorter single-hand fly rods. Heck, we refer to two-handed fly rods as ‘spey rods’ for a reason! If you continue to use this site we assume that you are okay with it. I had just moved to Wenatchee, Wa, and I started hearing about more and more anglers using two-hand rods. I am also aware of my limitations of spey casting with a single hand rod especially when a long line is required on a windy day and more so of the left hand side. Peter Pancho Active Member . SWITCH rods are generally under 12 foot, 8 weights on down to 5/6 weight. Conversely, an 11' to 12' rod feels right at home on smaller coastal rivers in the west, and the majority of Great Lakes tributaries... Once you've decided the correct length, the line size should be dictated by two factors. In spey, we speak in terms of "grain weight". You can also make overhead casts with a spey rod, although there are some good reasons not to make a habit of it. I was wondering why I see more BIG fish caught with Spey rods as opposed to single handed rods? We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Instead of trying to get rid of some of them, I just try to find some good (inventive) way of using them for the overall good of my fishing. Eliminating the hinge in the line with the 3 densities allows constant contact and feel of the fly. Two-Handed Spey casting can require longer two-handed fly rods with specially tapered lines that allow for a variety of easy casts resulting in longer distances. March 22, 2016 March 29, 2016 Tim Rawlins single hand skagit, single hand spey, Skagit Casting, Spey Casting, Spey fishing I have not invested in an OPST Commando head , yet, because I shot my wad on a Carron competition rod and a fabulous Galeforce shooting head … The new line has already taken home accolades, winning "Best New Fly Line" at EFTTEX 2015. WFF Supporter. Switch rods are usually between 10 and 12 feet long. The power it generates can really be compared to two handed spey rods. You can cast them overhead using one hand or you can use the bottom handle with your other hand to do different Spey casts (think fancy roll casts). Go. So when fishing some of those mountain streams that eventually open up into larger pools and runs, you’ll find this floating line fits the bill for all types of casts. I bought a video by this guy who rivaled my most boring science class teacher in presenting the techniques of casting with both hands on the rod. OPST also has 7.5' and 5' tips available which pair well with shorter spey/switch rods as well as single hand rods. Some old “skills” (bad ones-not all skills are good) are next to impossible for me to shake. Spey casts use different methods to form the D loop and load the rod but are very similar and add a whole lot of extra power and distance. The Highlander SX single handers will have grip assemblies typical of any 10’0” single hand rod, with a 2.5” fighting butt (as shown in the image above) They are ideal for correctly grain matched OPST Commando heads, the Scientific Anglers Spey Lite integrated Scandi lines … These rods are normally 12' to 15' long. I have to admit I use a two-hand rod more often than a single-hand for steelhead, but I am slowly coming back around to the pure fun of casting, fishing and catching on a single-hand. Double-hand fly rods were ancient history of which I read about heavy lemon-wood rods weighing a pound or more, obviously cast by Paul Bunyan. It is a “live line” technique that requires an “anchor” on the water. However, it’s important to note that by definition spey casting is a style of fly casting, one that can be performed by both two-handed “spey” rods AND your run of the mill single-hand fly rod. Single hand rod thread... Thread starter Peter Pancho; Start date Jul 26, 2003; Prev. First lets briefly discuss rods, single-hand fly rods versus double-hand fly rods. They are essentially switch rods designed to be cast two-handed for trout. Don’t get me wrong. Reactions: StraitsOnTheFly. Great info on the New School Spey set ups! OPST also has 7.5' and 5' tips available which pair well with shorter spey/switch rods as well as single hand rods. Now, there are so many qualified spey-casting instructors that can make learning and using correct casting methods a breeze, there is really no excuse to not learn or improve your spey casting skills. Curiosity is the single most important trait of a fly fisherman. Go. Spey casts use different methods to form the D loop and load the rod but are very similar and add a whole lot of extra power and distance. Come join the discussion about trails, licenses, fishing, game laws, styles, reviews, optics, accessories, classifieds, and more! A common point of confusion for new spey anglers is the grain weight system used to designate the line weight of Skagit (and Scandi) heads. Believe me, I  am no great-shakes of a caster with a spey rod, but I manage to get my line and fly mostly where I want it and fish it exactly as I want; mending or not mending, tightening or throwing slack into the line, nymphing or swinging a fly. Its not quite as easy to cast as the tiny Scandi and … At 11', they are the shortest of the ultra-short Skagit heads on the market, making them exceptional for Spey casts with single-handed rods. With these casts, an angler will be able to make a cast in any river position and in any wind condition. First lets briefly discuss rods, single-hand fly rods versus double-hand fly rods. Trevor, single-hand rod, and a spey cast. A single handed rod, rated for a #8 line, loads effectively with between 200 and 300 grains. Learning spey and switch casts are essential to help you understand where, how, when and why you should be using this very effective style of fly casting. New to Spey/skagit. Switch rods come in a variety of weights, usually, 5 through 8 WT, are shorter than Spey rods (usually between 10 and 12 ft), and can be cast with two hands or single hand/overhead. Spey vs Switch Rods. 1; 2; 3; First Prev 3 of 3 Go to page. I've been casting single hands for 25 years. Ideally i want a rod to do both with so i have been looking at switch rods in the autumn sales. It is like holding a feather. fishing for trout mostly on the Lower Sacramento River in Anderson, CA. 6wt in two-handed/spey doesn't equal 6wt single-handed. He showed me a few tricks, and I headed home intent on trying out these moves to see if they worked with my styles of fishing. Two-Hand fly rods (now commonly called Spey rods) are powered with both hands. Between 10'6" and 11'6" long, switch rods are shorter than traditional spey rods and longer than most single-hand rods. September 16, 2016 5:36 pm. Feeling every move, nudge, and take leads directly to catching more fish. Your email address will not be published. The downside will be clumsy overhead performance, and of course the short head will require more shooting on longer casts. 6wt in two-handed/spey doesn't equal 6wt single-handed. Fishing the two-hand rod has improved my single-hand casting and I find I can use a some of spey casts on the short rod; such as the switch and single-spey casts. Not all of the time, but more times – when it makes sense. Spey Casting Tackle. It almost seemed like overkill because of the size of the Wenatchee, but the control of the line was phenomenal. A couple years later, I met world-class caster Way Yin at the Sandy River Spey Clave in Oregon, and he explained how he uses Spey casting techniques with a single-hand rod all the time. I got a lot of attention since I was the only one using a rod longer than 9 or 10 feet long. You can cast the lines with them just fine, but you lose a lot of that easy flow that Skagit lines are famous for. The world of Steelhead and Salmon fishing has evolved quite a bit over the last couple of decades. Amidst all of this are single-hand spey rods and techniques. With single hand fly rods and fly lines, there is a pretty straight forward system: a 5wt fly line goes on a 5wt rod, a 6wt fly line goes on a 6wt rod, and so on. These rods are normally 12' to 15' long. It just does not translate into spey language. With the popularity of long rods and all the new line configurations a whole new world has opened up to the fly angler. 8 footers are short by Montana trout rod standards, and they aren’t the best for casting these Scout lines. It wasn’t until 1991, that I started exploring the use of the “long-rod”. One of the easiest and most useful casts for the single-hand angler is the Double Spey. Skagit vs Scandi Heads – Keeping it Simple, Captains for Clean Water: A Mission That Holds Water, Deneki Custom Fly Series: Andros South Shrimp, Deneki Chronicles: Spey Casting Tips – Anchor Placement. Your email address will not be published. What really struck me was the way the line performed when I lifted it into the air for an overhead cast. The RIO InTouch Single Hand Spey Line is my dream come true. There are two systems for line weights, two-handed (spey) vs. single-handed. 1 of 3 Go to page. Spey rods are great, however they can lead to poor presentation. “Live line” simply means the fly line has energy in it which results in a cast that requires appropriate timing so … SHS on the other hand, is more of a Scandi line – much more subtle and versatile. A subtle peck or pick-up is felt better through the shorter rod length. The versi-tips are classified as a two-handed product. single hand spey rods. Specialist gear is not required, however in some situations (tight surrounds, heavier tips and flies, sustained anchor casting ) a short skagit head will make life a lot easier. A single hand rod, except in the hands of a tournament caster, is just too difficult to make cast after cast and firmly control the line in this situation. In a nutshell, a modern switch rod is designed to be cast as both a single-handed and two-handed rod. Either rod was up to the job, but I found myself wishing I brought a shorter rod with me. Two parallel systems. The SA Skagit and Scandi Lite are a huge leap forward in the short 2 handed and any single handed Skagit casting with a projectile casting system. The feel of the strike on a one-hand rod; you can actually FEEL the fish’s pulse, the one-to-one retrieve ratio combined with the sound of the drag (I am old-school; I still prefer click-drag reels for steelhead and all freshwater fishes) the direct contact between angler and fish is just more intense with the shorter, more playful 9 foot rod than with a 12 to 15 foot rod. Sizes Available : WF4F - WF8F Delivery Information See for yourself why spey casting and fly fishing has grown in popularity throughout the North America. 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